Was Shiva the Real Adiyogi or Is that Sadhguru’s Nonsense?

Recently, a 112 foot Adiyogi statue was unveiled in Isha Foundation, Coimbatore by Prime Minister Narendra Modi. The beautiful statue was designed by Sadhguru Jaggi Vasudev as a credit to the first yogi and as an inspiration for the world. But who is the actual first yogi revered by yogic tradition? Was it really the mystical Lord Shiva or someone else? Sadly, the original Adi yogi has been forgotten and has been replaced by a carelessly spun story by Sadhguru Jaggi Vasudev.

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Let me first quote the story as it is narrated by Sadhguru.

Story of AdiYogi as narrated by Sadhguru

“When we say “Shiva,” there are two fundamental aspects that we are referring to. The word “Shiva” literally means “that which is not.” On another level, when we say “Shiva,” we are referring to a certain yogi, the Adiyogi or the first yogi, and also the Adi Guru, the first Guru, who is the basis of what we know as the yogic science today.

In the yogic culture, Shiva is not seen as a God. He was a being who walked this land and lived in the Himalayan region. As the very source of the yogic traditions, his contribution in the making of human consciousness is too phenomenal to be ignored. This predates all religion.

Over 15,000 years ago, Adiyogi appeared in the upper regions of the Himalayas. No one knew where he came from or what his origins were. He just came and went into intense ecstatic dance upon the mountains.

People saw that he was experiencing something that nobody had known before, something that they were unable to fathom. So they gathered around him wanting to know what it was. But no one had the courage to go near him because he was so intense, like a blazing flame of fire. So they waited, hoping something would happen. Some people waited for months and left and Only seven hardcore seekers stuck on. These seven were insistent that they must learn from him, but Shiva ignored them. They pleaded and begged him, “Please, we want to know what you know.”

At last after 84 years of intense sadhana,he decided to become a Guru. On a full moon day which is known as Guru Pournami because the Adiyogi transformed himself into the Adi Guru – the first Guru was born on that day. He took the seven disciples to Kantisarovar and started a systematic exposition of yoga in a scientific manner. He began propounding the whole mechanics of life to these seven people, not intellectually as a philosophy, but experientially. He explored every nut and bolt of creation with them. He brought forth yoga as a technology with which every human being can evolve himself.

The transmission went on for a long period of time. After many years, when it was complete and had produced seven fully enlightened beings, who are today celebrated as the Sapta Rishis, Adiyogi sent each one of them to different parts of the world. One went to Central Asia. Another went to North Africa and the Middle East, where certain schools exist even today. Another went to South America, and that is one culture that imbibed it in a deep way and made something big out of it. One went to East Asia.

One stayed right there with Adiyogi. Another one came to the lower regions of the Himalayas and started what is known as Kashmiri Shaivism. Another one went south into the Indian Peninsula. This one is very important for us because he is Agastya Muni. Of the seven Sapta Rishis, Agastya Muni has been the most effective in terms of bringing the spiritual process into practical life, not as a teaching, philosophy or a practice, but as life itself. It is the benefit of what he did that the Indian people are still enjoying because he produced hundreds of yogis who were like fireballs.” and it goes on.”

First, it looks like Sadhguru has mixed two different stories and made them into one story. I don’t mean that Sadhguru would have intentionally done that. Regardless of whether someone is enlightened or not, human memory has its limitations. Sadhguru probably heard these stories long time ago and due to memory errors, he might have made the two stories into one, which narrates something that never happened. I don’t blame Sadhguru, but the blind followers who simply take whatever Sadhguru says as correct.

I think it is important to make a few things clear. Let me first discuss who this Shiva is and a story from mythology that talks about Dakshinamurthy. Then I will talk about the real Adi yogi, who initiated 8 sages and sent them to different parts of the world.

Who is Shiva?

First, the word ‘Shiva’ doesn’t mean ‘that which is not’, as said by Sadhguru. I have no idea how he came up with such a meaning. The word ‘Shiva’ means ‘auspicious’, which has always been used as an adjective in Vedas. The word has been used for many deities, not just Rudra, the earliest form of Lord Shiva that we know today. It was just a word used to honour someone. Slowly, the word ‘Shiva’ got associated with the Vedic deity Rudra.

Second, mythology is not history. The stories in mythology might have been created for various reasons: to convey deep mystic teachings in the form of a story, to help people to develop devotion for a personified form of the ultimate truth as an aid towards self-realization, to entertain people etc. A puranic story always has multiple contradictory versions, each of them created by people to glorify their own favourite personal God.

Sadhguru has many times indicated that this Adiyogi is the same as Dakshinamoorthy. But the story of Dakshinamoorthy and the story of the Adiyogi who sent 8 rishis to different parts of the world are two entirely different stories.

Let me narrate a puranic story. When Lord Brahma was doing his work of creation, he created many sons from different parts of his body. Four of his sons named Sanaka, Sanatana, Sanandana and Sanatkumara were born from the mind of Brahma. These four people became Brahmacharis against the wish of their father. It is also said that Brahma became very angry because of that, and out of anger Rudra, the earliest form of Shiva was born.

But in Shaivite traditions, it is said that these four people approached Shiva who then assumed the form of Dakshinamoorthy to teach them. He taught them about Self-realization using chin mudra that symbolically shows how a person realizes the ultimate truth. That was all his teaching! According to the story, he just taught the essence of all the scriptures by a small gesture. Note that this applies to all traditions, not just Yoga. Most of the Indian schools of thought like Advaita, Yoga, and Samkya have the same essence even though they use different terminologies.

There are different stories associated with these four kumaras. Some of them are contradictory. Each purana has its own version. So, it is very clear that Dakshinamoorthy is a pure form created for devotion and sadhana, not a historical being who walked on the earth. And Dakshninamoorthy was not shown as teaching traditional Yoga at all. He is clearly not the Adiyogi of the yogic tradition. But this is not to deny the significance of Dakshinamoorthy in anyway. He is a great symbolic representation of enlightenment.

Who is the real Adiyogi?

During 200 BC or 300 BC, a great yogi called Nandhi natha lived in mount Kailash. He was a real human being who walked this planet and was the guru of the great Patanjali. He initiated 8 disciples (Sanatkumar, Sanakar, Sanadanar, Sananthanar, Shivayogamuni, Patanjali, Vyaghrapada, and Tirumular) and sent them to various parts of the world including central Asia to spread Advaita Shaivism. The whole Yogic tradition goes back to Patanjali whose Guru was Nandi natha. Nandi Natha also composed a poem with 26 verses called Nandikeshvara Kashika.

Even today, the Nandhi natha yogic tradition regards Nandi natha as the Adiyogi. A school of this lineage called Adi Natha does regard Shiva as the first yogi, but that was just a title given to Nandinatha, since Shiva means ‘auspicious’.

Tirumular, a well known Tamil saint and the disciple of Nandhinatha was actually the one sent by Adi yogi to south India to spread this school (not Agasthiya). Shiva sending sage Agasthiya to South India to balance the earth was just another puranic story and even that story doesn’t say that he was sent to south India to teach Yoga, as Sadhguru narrates.(Again, this is not to deny the significance of Agasthiya; He was a great Siddha who made great contribution to the world).

Vigyan Bhairav Tantra – 112 techniques for Yoga

Sadhguru also says that Adiyogi statue is 112 feet high and this is to represent the 112 techniques given by Lord Shiva. These 112 techniques are from Vigyan Bhairav Tantra, which is claimed to be a part of ancient Kashmir Shaivaite text called Rudrayamala. It was composed by an unknown author sometime around 8th century AD as a form of imaginary conversation between Shiva and Shakthi.

So, this Vigyan Bhairav Tantra is in no way related to the Adiyogi  Nandhi natha or a historical man called Shiva. The whole text of Vigyan Bhairav Tantra was actually popularized by Osho all over the world. Vigyan Bhairav Tantra is a very rare text which was translated to English by Paul Reps based on the commentary given by Swami Lakshman Joo Raina, a self-realized mystic of Kashmir Shaivism. The translation of Paul Reps was used by Osho to give his own commentaries.

The credit of popularizing Vigyan Bhairav Tantra goes to these three people:  Lakshman Joo, Paul Reps and Osho. Without them, not many people would have known about this valuable text.

As I already mentioned in my previous article ‘The Journey of a Seeker’, Sadhguru uses so many anecdotes, information, views and ideas given by Osho but never gives him credit. Osho was a honest and courageous man who created a great worldwide awareness about self-realization. He was the first man to popularize the fact that there is nothing wrong for a self-realized man to live a normal life with all the luxuries of the world. If Osho didn’t have the courage to own 92 Rolls Royces and still claim enlightenment, we wouldn’t be accepting Sadhguru owning a helicopter or playing golf. It is easier to accept Sadhguru now because we have already seen Osho like this. Osho did all the ground work but the poor man doesn’t get the credit.

The Adiyogi statue looks beautiful, there is no question. But he didn’t build this statue to give credit for whoever the adiyogi was. It is simply a statue of Lord Shiva built to attract crowds and tourists. If Sadhguru is the kind of man who gives credit to people, then he would have given credit to Nandhi Natha (the actual Adi yogi) and Osho already.

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Author: Shanmugam

I am a blogger and a spiritual seeker. I had a tremendous awakening experience in July 12, 2014 on a Gurupurnima day in the presence of Sadhguru but I wouldn’t call that as spiritual enlightenment. But it did free me from many things and changed many things.

24 thoughts on “Was Shiva the Real Adiyogi or Is that Sadhguru’s Nonsense?”

    1. No body can be 100% sure about the past… But some of the things that I said can be verified by yourself…

      1) Shiva means auspicious… Look up any sanskrit dictionary this is what you will find.. You can also find numerous vedic texts where Shiva is used as an adjective for all vedic deities…

      2) The vedic deity Rudra came to be known as Shiva in the long run… Shiva as we know today is obviously a mythological character… No one can really prove that he actually existed on the planet.

      3) There is an adiyogi called nandinatha who is talked about in many texts including thirumanthiram. But there is no reason to believe that this adiyogi is same as Shiva who is talked about in mythology.

      4) He is taking everything that is known about Shiva as one, and giving us a cocktail version. He says that this same Adiyogi was Shiva who married Parvathi and who gave birth to Ganesh and Skandha. He has talked about this in many of his talks. When he said that all these people were actually yogis, I did find it attractive; but when it became obvious to me that he was just stating his own opinions and presenting them as facts, I stopped giving much importance to everything he says… In future, he may even go ahead and say that everything said in puranas are true…

      There is no use in believing what I say or what he says anyway.. The statue is beautiful, I don’t disagree… But I think people should stop being blind and stop taking everything he says as gospel.

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      1. Neither i believe you nor sadhguru ; because i simply do not know what it is.
        And all in all ; you also shouldn’t believe others translation.

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      2. There is nothing wrong in calling Nandhinatha as Shiva when you use the word ‘Shiva’ just as an adjective to mean ‘auspicious’..

        But if you tell me that this same Nandhinatha is the one who married Parvathi and gave birth to Ganesha and Skandha, if you make a statue of Nandhinatha with a crescent moon on his head and snake on his neck, then we are mixing history and mythology. And that is what Sadhguru is doing.

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  1. This is a great article. I especially like the part where you lucidly explain that allegories were developed in ancient mythology to attract the curiosity of people who would otherwise wouldn’t care about self-realization.

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  2. You are an idiot. Haven’t you even heard about bhairava vijyana. Adiyogi is among many names of Shiva. Adi means first. He was the first one ever existed in entire human history who showed that human can go beyond his physical nature. No one ever has touched even one percent of what Adiyogi had achieved. And for that he never got enough recognition. And throughout history there has been many who utilized his work but never gave credit like Gautama himself used only 1st method among 112 methods and became budha. And this is what aches Sadhuru. He is just doing marketing for shiva, that he himself was not interested in, by calling him Adiyogi.

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  3. Adiyogi is among many names of Shiva. Adi means first. He was the first one ever existed in entire human history who showed that human can go beyond his physical nature. No one ever has touched even one percent of what Adiyogi had achieved. And for that he never got enough recognition. And throughout history there has been many who utilized his work but never gave credit like Gautama himself used only 1st method among 112 methods and became budha. And this is what aches Sadhuru. He is just doing marketing for shiva, that he himself was not interested in, by calling him Adiyogi.

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    1. First of all, do you think calling someone ‘idiot’ just to make your point is appropriate? Is this what you learnt from Isha? I see such a behavior from a lot of people who try to defend Sadhguru.. Anyway, Sadhguru repeats Osho’s words and you are just repeating Sadhguru’s words.. No one can be pretty sure about the past, thats my point… And I am questioning Sadhguru’s certainty…

      Also, I am pretty sure that the word ‘Shiva’ DOES NOT mean ‘that which is not’… Anybody who has some knowledge in Sanskrit would know that.. So, please do your own research…

      Also, remember that I don’t have anything against Sadhguru.. I always try to take a completely neutral position when writing such things… I am only against blindly following anybody and taking anyone’s word without doing any research…

      Also, did you even read the complete article? I have read Vigyan Bhairav Tantra completely… Osho gave a complete commentary on it and Sadhguru is simply repeating Osho’s words.. Read my article again.

      Finally, with all due respect, I would appreciate if you refrain from using the words such as ‘idiot’ and stupid’… This is not a place to fight or abuse… And this is the last thing that I would expect from someone who has been listening to Sadhguru…

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      1. The roots of Śiva in folk etymology is “śī” which means “in whom all things lie, pervasiveness” and va which means “embodiment of grace”.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiva
        Now if you are gifted with even a little common sense then you can tell that “in whom all THINGS lie” would itself be empty which can easily we rephrased to “that which is not”, where THINGS means all physical matter of the universe. A single sanskrit word can have multiple meanings depending on context. Sadhguru himself says that shi-va means no-thingness not nothingness.
        And I’m sorry for using those negative words. I’m not defending Sadhguru and I’ve never visited isha foundation, I’m just trying to stop you from spreading wrong information. Hardly in a century great enlightened souls like Sadhguru appear on planet who take us all a step close to reality. He is one of a kind just as Osho or buddha was. Before I knew Sadhguru my believe on spirituality was close to zero due to the nonsense stories widely spread across hindu dharm but after watching sadhguru and hearing him talking about spirituality in a scientific way, my believe on spirituality is close to 100. And I’m also a great follower of OSHO. I see them both as modern pillars of Yogic science.
        So my advise to you is this that try to spread information that scientifically explains yogic processes instead of writing against enlightened beings, at least not before you yourself become enlightened.

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      2. Did you see that it is folk etymology? Folk etymology is something that is spread by common people who actually make up these things for various reasons… It is just like folk psychology which is different from the actual science of psychology… Some of these concepts are taken from poetry as well.. But it is not the actual etymology of the word ‘shiva’…

        Yes.. It is true that a single word in sanskrit has many meanings… I know some basic Sanskrit myself and I always do deep research before writing anything… But the word ‘shiva’ as it was used in the earliest Sanskrit always meant auspiciousness.. Later on, the word changed to mean the puranic God Shiva…

        Anyway, even if you take the folk etymological meaning of ‘in which all things lie’, you cannot simply define it as ‘no-thingness’ by our own logic. Of course, I understand where you are coming from. In spiritual context, no-thingness is usually referred to the source of everything, which is not a thing in itself, which cannot be defined by words etc…. But etymology doesn’t work that way. We can’t simply use this to change the actual etymology of a word. Because ‘that which all things lie’ doesn’t always have to be in spiritual context. The ancient human beings who probably used this root might have meant something that was related to human survival.

        You said ‘ I’m just trying to stop you from spreading wrong information’.. Actually, this is exactly what I am doing. I am also creating an awareness in people to not to blindly take whatever anyone says, no matter who he is (Look up ‘authority bias’)

        There is a difference between ‘certainty’ and ‘possibility’… People often misunderstand possibility as certainty… It is quite possible that there was actually a man whose name was ‘Shiva’, who walked on this planet and who was the first person to start or aggregate the nuances of yogic science.. But is it a certainty? How can anyone be certain about the past this way? If someone assumes that the very same Shiva was the adiyogi, he was also the one who married parvathi and gave birth to Ganesh and Skandha (which comes from puranic literature that grew long after after 100 BC or 100 AD) and he was also the on who gave those 112 techniques (which was actually written in medieval period, probably thousand years after the supposed adi yogi was born), then it is purely confirmation bias and not critical thinking.

        The beginning of my commitment to spiritual path goes back more than 15-20 years ago. In all these years, I have seen a lot.. There is usually a spiritual honeymoon period that one goes through as soon as he discovers the spiritual path. Suddenly his perspective about the world changes and it causes a lot of excitement and also mental peace. I think you are probably in such a spiritual honeymoon period. But there is more to this… Read my story here and you may understand what I am trying to say: https://nellaishanmugam.wordpress.com/2017/05/10/the-journey-of-a-seeker-my-story/

        No one is infallible, regardless of whether they are enlightened or not.. Sometimes even enlightened people say things which are not correct. I have already given a few examples in my post ‘Journey of a seeker’ about it. Please take your time to go through it.

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    1. I have already read the book … Let me let you once again, I have read probably most of the things that Sadhguru spoke in the last 10 years, including his book Mystic musings. And I was impressed as you are right now.

      You haven’t addressed anything I said.. But I can understand, I would have responded the same way you do some 7-8 years ago.

      If you can. read my post ‘Journey of the seeker’ with open-minded attention. I have addressed many things there..

      Anyway, if Sadhguru is really enlightened, none of this is going to bother him. And I have always tried to take an unbiased stance when criticizing many of what he says. The reason people have problem with such things is because of the hardwired need that we have to follow, defend and get emotionally attached to an authority figure. And that is not in anyway related to enlightenment or spiritual path itself.

      Darshan is not about another person. It is about you. The true Guru is inside you. The outer Guru is only an excuse. Everything is about you and you only..

      I am not seeing this as a debate. For me, anything that comes out of me is just a natural response. I am completely aligned with and feel one with the rest of the universe with absolutely no conflicts. But If you feel that you are debating and it is distracting you from your sadhana, then thats good.. Let us stop this discussion and you proceed with your spiritual journey. And I wish you all the best!

      Let me just end with one thing that Buddha said:

      “Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it.

      Do not believe in traditions simply because they have been handed down for many generations. …

      Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders.

      But when, after observation and analysis, you find anything that agrees with reason, and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.”

      – Buddha, Kalama Sutta

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      1. I agree with last paragraph.
        The hurdles that are most often faced by spiritual seekers is of choice. You don’t believe anything until you experience it by yourself, that’s fine, but when you say he was right and he is wrong then it’s a problem.
        Darshan is all about seeing the truth. I don’t think that anyone knows anything about the origin of yogic science except highlightened and mystical beings who has seen the truth. And yoga is not about Sanskrit language and it’s origin, but about Darshan. May be Sadhguru and people like him had had the Darshan of absolute emptiness and of the transmission left by Shiva at Kailash and at other sacred spaces.
        And so I believe along with other thousands of spiritual seekers that whatever he says comes from his direct experience with Shiva. He also says that 50% of what he says and does is collaborated by Shiva himself. Sadhguru refer to him as his silent partner.
        And I find so much logic in whatever he says than any other text.

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      2. What you said exactly reflects how my own mindset was few years before..

        You said “I don’t think that anyone knows anything about the origin of yogic science except highlightened and mystical beings who has seen the truth. ”

        I used to believe this as well because I was also completely convinced in the way he is explaining things… But later on, I found out many things. Thats a long story…

        Whether it is really possible to know the past because of yogic sciences, I don’t know.. I have read the complete Patanjali Sutras and the book does say that many things are possible. But I don’t know yet. It might be possible or might not be. I have an open mind on that.

        But can Sadhguru actually do this? I am questioning it because some of the things he said actually reveals that he cannot do it.

        What if he is just saying most of the things based on what he has read from various books? Go through this answer that I gave in Quora:
        https://www.quora.com/Is-Sadhguru-a-conman/answer/Shanmugam-P-12?srid=hJCJi

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  4. See my friend whatever you said here and in the articles you refered, I agree with that. There is no way I can’t be. But I don’t support this.

    I don’t have to do anything with who Sadhguru really is and with his personal life. He might be a robot, and forget about his enlightenment. What I know is that he’s a great story teller that appeals to the logical mind, he tells stories that had never been written or spoken because in the past such stories were never needed. In the past spiritual seekers used to speak stories as metaphors just like codes like brahma created all life forms on earth by getting infatuated by his own creation and there are many avatars of Shakti as kali, durga and so on. And all these metaphors seems appalling in modern time. They all seem rediculous. These netaphors never tell the truth directly, the truth is encoded within them. So we need people who can decode these metaphors and tell us the another story that young as well as intellectual mind can cherish. And this is where Sadhguru seems to fit in. And that’s why we don’t find proofs of what he said in sanskrit text.

    I know that he does few mistakes when comes to give scientific explanation on spiritual process but I’m not sure. I am ignorant of his mistakes. He has said many times that he has never read anything as once in his talk with Deepak chopra, I knew that he’s lying but I ignored it. You said that he copies Osho without giving him credit, I agree but I’ll ignore it too. Why? because I personally don’t have to do anything with these guys. What I care about is Yoga and its future. Osho and sadhguru are just mere different chapters in the great book of yoga, some paragraphs can be here and there to make a chapter look nice and appealing but they all be there in a single book.

    Do you know there is another world emerging right now called Pschedelics. And these are said to induce mystical and spiritual experience and leaves a long lasting impact on mind and cures mental illnesses. Some western philosophers like Jason Silva working and spreading great awareness about its usage and benefits and completely repels yoga and also say that they don’t need yoga as they say it is traditional to what psychedelics are. And a large population of young as well as old people begin taking micro doses of psychedelics on regular basis. Some groups of people use both micro dosing as well as yoga. And there numbers are exponentially increasing. And there is third population of people like us who only do yoga if you already don’t take psychedelics. And it worries me and may be OSHO and sadhguru too as they said LSD drugs don’t induce experience better than yoga. But psychedecs evolve and yoga doesn’t but yogic stories can evolve, we can tell the stories about what yoga can do by reaching to its ultimate stages.

    Suppose if we didn’t have people like OSHO, sadhguru and Ramadev baba who penetrated well among large population of the world and made them realize the importance of yoga which they otherwise would never realize, what would be the present of yoga would be?

    Some western neuroscientists found a hormone called Anandamide named after the word Ananda(absolute ecstasy) which we release during blissful experiences. According to them this is the highest level of blissful experience human is capable of having.
    There is another group of scientists and philosopher working on the root of subjective experience. Among them David charmers say that consciousness is fundamental force of universe which makes human experience their mental contents. Another scientist called Rupert Sheldrake proposed a theory of morphic field which states that all living things are organized by a coherent field which also include human thoughts and emotions and these fields have inherent qualities means they have memory of their own. I doubt that morphic field theory is what we call chitta and karma and Rupert has just imitated by telling a different story that appeals to the logical mind without stating anything about yoga, now this is something we can fight for. But we in Bharat always take Yogic processes for granted. Why can’t our scientists and yogis themselves put forward theories on mystical experience like transmission between a yogi and dhyanlinga. We know that transmission is not just a joke, there is an immense possibility for scientific exploration. But we always take such processes for granted and this is what ceasing the scientific flow of yoga among people. Quantum physics is full of such ideas that can’t be proven easily, but physicists are always open to such ideas.

    So instead of arguing over someone’s credibility in the great book of yoga, why don’t you and we add a new mind boggling chapter to it and start decoding the meaning behind what’s in there already. This is how our great Vedas and scriptures are made, isn’t it? You will always find some overlap between different parts of the Vedas. Let the evolution of yoga continue that has been stagnant for the last few thousands years but this time this evolution should be scientific too.

    So let these gurus do their best in spreading yoga across the globe and get people excited about it even if it seems pseudoscientific to us because such gurus are very few or only one in a very long time. If a school kid got excited about yoga just because of Sadhguru and when he reads these articles of yours and watched those interviews on television, now what? I know very well you don’t intend to do so. Sadhguru is the most easily accessible living guru in the world right now and all his asylums and foundations with teaching facilities are there because our gods left nothing behind except written text. He is doing a rally for rivers that no one previously thought about, ideas about new teaching ways, about business that will do good all from top to down and so much more. He has done so much good in the world that I have never seen any guru has ever done before, they all just remained yogi. Now it shouldn’t bother us whether this robot is enlightened or not and if it is, we’ll never know that but we can put forward some theories just like David charmers, Rupert sheldrake and all those quantum physicists did.

    Let these gurus do their best and let’s do our best in expanding yoga not just spreading.

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    1. You have talked about so many things here.. I agree with a few of them but not everything.. What I am trying to do here is just to make the readers to see through the bias and not to take everything blindly.

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    2. My motivation for writing some articles in this blog are listed here:

      1) Science and spirituality should be bridged. A collaboration of spirituality and science can do a lot more than what is being done now by Gurus.. In this century, it is the best way to go.

      2) No human being is infallible. If someone is giving you a technique or method to help you towards your spiritual growth, trying it out doesn’t do any harm; But when you take everything that person says as true just because the methods he is giving is working for you in someway, then it is more likely that you are stuck where you are in the spiritual path. At the end of the day, it is you who walk the path and you have to follow your own light. True Sadhguru is inside you, in fact it is You!

      Finally here is a Zen Koan for you to look up and ponder over; And it is for everyone who reads this post:

      If you meet the Buddha, kill him. (逢佛殺佛)

      — Linji

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      1. You write these articles just to attract audience and to show your frustration about your failed career.
        You blame Sadhguru so much just because he didn’t give credit to OSHO on using his few lines. All you write is bullshit. May be it’s because of the psychology books that you have been eating. I have read few articles in the past that psychologist are among the highest having mental disorders and OSHO also said it in one of his talks. I went through some of your articles, and I noticed that there is nothing scientific and spiritual about them as you have stated above, they are full of failed trials, lurked frustration, blame, judgement and these articles appeared quite destimulating. I see a man who seems frustrated because he couldn’t get what he supposed to get through spiritual practices and now start showing his frustration through these articles by blaming others whose methods didn’t workout for him. You seem a man whose meditation is happening inside his stomach, a man who hides his weaknesses through psychological explanations. You are a straw man, coldblooded one.

        I shouldn’t have wasted my time. Your articles won’t help anyone in any way. Go and find a job.

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      2. I don’t have any frustrations at all about anything from my past. And I don’t think about past at all. Let us not get into any personal attacks.. I am not interested in engaging personal attacks or proving whether I am frustrated or peaceful..

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  5. Criticism is the essence of knowledge and needs to be held within the brink. Getting emotional over trifle matters need to be arrested. By age I am elderly but by Vedic knowledge still a novice.By reading subjects as above I am amassing volume of information derived from the pros and cons discussed. Please keep it healthy. Thank you. F.N.I. I am a retired Malaysian Government Officer.

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